Days after the Wisconsin state legislature passed a law banning webcam abortions in the state, Planned Parenthood of Wisconsin announced it would stop providing dangerous RU486 chemical abortions.
Mifepristone abortions aren’t and weren’t dangerous. They are, in fact, less dangerous than carrying a pregnancy to term.
something to think about….
Well, actually, U.S. nationality is legally well-established as being conferred at birth, so this is, strictly speaking, untrue.
Details matter in laws. The spirit of the law is what moves people to vote for it, but the letter is what will be applied. I’m guessing thesexychristianman (lust, pride) is big on the idea of fetal personhood at conception.
Do fetal persons have nationality? Does it matter where they were conceived? (Presumably it must, because they haven’t been born anywhere yet.) Bam, pregnancy tests at every border. Deportation becomes a nightmare. Having sex while on vacation becomes a nightmare.
Do they count for census data? Can they be claimed as dependents on tax forms?
And don’t even get me started on miscarriage.
If a member of the Catholic Church gets an abortion, in the eyes of the Church, they will be excommunicated. No ifs, no buts, no maybes. None of this, oh, Catholics believe in a wide range of things and it differs from every person. No. I am not a fundamentalist, so I do not believe everything…
Fun fact: one in three Catholic women have had an abortion.
I promised myself if I ever get pregnant and my husband didn’t let me get an abortion, I’m going to kill myself.
Please first explore the resources available to help you get an abortion without your husband finding out. You could also get hormonal birth control without him finding out, like Depo-Provera.
Suicide is something you can always put off until later, so give your other options a chance first, please.
Alright, so I’m doing my homework for government on my Supreme Court case. Ii happen to get Roe v. Wade. For those of you who don’t know what that is, It’s about abortion. So being me, I got curious and looked up “aborted fetus.” i saw some gruesome pictures of baby;s cut up and thrown in dumpsters. so I continued research. I found some quotes from women stating that “It’s just a mass of tissue.” Yes it is true that the fetus is tissue, BUT it also has a beating heart. I don’t understand how a woman, the supposed to be loving, kind, and the life giver, could just kill their baby. Some of the ways they do it is just torture. They do feel. Stabbing a fetus in the back of the neck and sucking their brains out. Injecting the womb with saline solution so it poisons, burns, and suffocates the fetus. All very painful. To something, no someONE who has a beating heart. I suggest you all get educated of what goes on in this world.
Hey there,
it sounds like you ran afoul of a whole lot of misinformation while doing your research. And that’s not your fault! There’s a lot of misinformation on abortion. A lot of people are religiously opposed to it, and they produce biased work on the subject.
For example, it has been reviewed at the top scientific level (that is, at the level of “review papers” that look at all of the research on a given subject) whether or not fetuses feel pain, and current evidence indicates very strongly that fetuses can’t feel pain. Groups opposed to abortion rights still maintain that fetuses can feel pain.
I’d like to invite you to ask me any questions you have, though! If nothing else, I can help you understand how the other side feels.
I have a story for you about abortion and people who are pro-life.
You see, during my 10th and 11th grade years in high school I was friends with people (who I’m still close friends with) that are (and still are) vocally pro-life. Or anti-choice or whatever you’d like to call it. I, too, thought that the anti-choice cause was a really good one. It got me stirred up; I was passionate about it.
And, though it’s something I look back on with no small amount of embarrassment, I went to a pro-life rally in Washington DC. Twice. And was quoted in my yearbook about it.
(Here’s a picture of me and my 10th grade bitchface as proof.)
The thing I want to talk about is why I changed my mind and did a complete 180 on the whole issue. See, I think a lot of the people who have the luxury of always having been pro-choice unfortunately misjudge a lot of the members of the anti-choice movement, and in doing so alienate a lot of people who could potentially be swayed on the issue.
This is A+ stuff. Both sides, quit calling the other side stupid for their views. Quit the ad hominem, quit the unresponsive sniping. Buid dialogue.
I’ve now reread and taken notes on the topic of the morality of abortion.
Now to reread about whether or not death is bad.
Let me know if you have any questions!
I’m pro-choice, but a girl I know had an abortion a few months ago and just found out she’s pregnant again and plans to ‘get shot of this one too’. My friend asked her if she’d used any protection and she said ‘no, because i thought you couldn’t get pregnant after you had an abortion?’ If someone is that stupid they should not be allowed to have sex.
Why is your third word “but”?
It sounds like the girl you know needs more choices. She needs the information necessary to make good choices about safe sex. Have some compassion.
Crack open your school science textbook. Biology, Anatomy or Psychology maybe?
Look at the Prenatal development section.
At ______ weeks.
At ________ weeks.
Etc.
In those books, does it say when the fetus has turned into a baby?
No?
Wonder why that is.
“Baby” isn’t a scientific term. “Neonate” is the term for a newborn. That change occurs at birth.
Science has no bearing on personhood, because personhood is not a scientific concept. Semantics don’t determine reality.
I get really confused when Christians think abortions and gay marriages are okay. I mean… do we read the same Bible?
I mean just the other day Obama said he agrees with gay marriages… but instead of Christians standing up for God, I see Christians saying “VOTE FOR OBAMA!!”
It just confuses me.
Perhaps they are voting according to what they think will be best for the country, and not out of a desire to compel other citizens to abide by the rules of their religious text.
Just a thought.
A more piercing question might be why Christians stand up for stand your ground laws in Florida. I think Jesus had a thing or two more to say about that than about gay marriage.
